I have and I've seen it done a couple of times. In fact my idea to do it was given me when I was about 14 or 15, a bunch of young people in front of me at Dodger Stadium were having a really cool picnic, way up in the top corner of the stadium, where I liked to sit with my friends, where no one could see. They popped a big bottle of champagne and had mimosas and grapes and cheeze and all sorts of cool picnic foods and they shared with us. It was so cool I never forgot it. So in 1999 or there abouts, after I got back from Bethel and had a girlfriend who was still under age, I planned a whole picnic involving champagne at the Long Beach Arena, out on the lawn, but my girlfriend and her sister were not into it so I just drank by myself. It was really depressing actually to not have a whole group in on it. I broke up with Alicia a few months later. Now she's not a JW anymore either.
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Drinking at meetings / assemblies / conventions ... who's done it?
by HarryMac infor me .... 1).
last district convention after having 'read up' (took some family to it).. 2).
last 'meeting' to watch step-father-in-law finally get his and get disfellowshipped for molestation.. ...both were taking vodka shots in the bathroom.. i'm sure there's lots of good stories out there..
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The time is near for my families crucification
by Gojira_101 ingood morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.
we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.
my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.
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Interesting to note that when I was in college, in my history class, the professor pointed out that our support of Britain in WW1 was not even decided upon until right before we jumped in, in 1917. There was a huge contingent of Americans that wanted to support Germany. There was a moment when it could have gone either way, with Britain or with Germany. so, why 1914 and not 1917? It's still just a lot of nonsense.
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With the July 15 WT approaching, would this be the ideal opportunity to start an ACTIVELY VOCAL fade?
by Captain Blithering inby 'actively vocal', i do not mean openly criticising the articles and pointing out the inconsistencies or flipflops (not footwear, reversals).
i do mean letting people know that you're finding it hard to understand the new truth, and the fact that there is therefore old truth, or falsities, (is that a word?
it is now), therefore if there are falsehoods (that's the word, of course), then that puts into doubt the extent of jah's involvement in the preparation/dissemination of it all... (and making it clear you're not saying they aren't gods prophets on earth, just that you're not sure, don't know).. the reason i ask is cos i'm finding it hard to completely fade without an external reason.
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I would say, do not under any circumstances show your hand. Do not indicate any theological doubts. Stick with : depression, materialism, work, school, other health problems, even a little driinking problem or something. anything would be better than putting them on your scent in my opinion. Once you raise that doubt, you can't unraise it. And what is the deal with the July 15 Watchtower. I haven't heard.
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WHAT IF the Watchtower Society were a MAP company instead?
by Terry inthe world's most accurate map maker advertises:.
"ours are the best and most accurate maps in the entire world!.
how can we make such an absolute claim?.
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I went to them and pointed out the problems in the map, they shot me and kidnapped my family... I am still alive but I have a hole in my heart that is hard to heal.
Ditto
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Oh and YES, it is ABSOLUTELY the driving force for discovery! Yes yes yes!
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Cognitive Dissonance is a GOOD THING. Cognitive Dissonance is a GOOD THING. I think we all should just say this over and over and over until the whole ex JW community gets it straight. I have had this same discussion so many times and still some people get it in their heads that cognitive dissonance is somehow a negative thing. I really don't know why.
So let's just break it down sloooowwwwly.
Cognitive. Is there anything wrong or bad with cognitive? What does it mean? It means of the mind or of the brain. A cognitive process is one that takes place in the mind or brain. Thinking for example is a cognitive process, and thinking is good. Cognitive processes are good. they are evidence that someone is alive and their brain works. Cognitive-ugh-good. Fire-ugh - good.
Dissonance. Good or bad? This might be where the confusion gets in. Dissonance in music is when two sounds or notes are poorly paired and make a sound that is not pleasing. When someone plays the guitar and plays a dissonant note, everyone goes eeewww. Dissonance in music, bad. Unless you are listening to a composer, and there are many, who can make dissonant sounds spound good, like Frank Zappa or Nels Cline.
Now, there is dissonance in all sorts of things. Dissonance in society, means that many people are not agreeing. Dissonance in nuts and bolts would mean that the bolts don't fit the nuts. Dissonance in food would be when two foods do not go well together.
So cognitive dissonance should be bad then right? No.
Cognitive dissonance is when you NOTICE that two things do not agree. If your brain does not NOTICE there is dissonance in a thought, then for you, there IS NO DOSSONANCE. Everything is just fine and you smile and sink back into your chair and watch Little House on the Prarie.
Cognitive dissonance is when you NOTICE that two things do not agree. If your brain does not NOTICE there is dissonance in a thought, then for you, there IS NO DOSSONANCE. Everything is just fine and you smile and sink back into your chair and watch Little House on the Prarie.
If you FEEL cognitive dissonance in your brain, then that is a sign that it is taking place and you NOTICE it. You are not dead. You notice dissonance in your head. What do you do when you notice dissonance in your head? Take a shot gun and blow it off? Read more Watchtowers until it all goes awayt? Call the elders and have them pray for you? Go out in service? Pick up a book that deals with cognitive dissonance and learn what it means, read a book that directly deals with the thing you are feeling dissonance about, like whether or not the Watchtower made false prophecies, whetheror not the blood issue is supported by science and external sources outside the Watchtower, web sites that feature criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses.
All of those things would be ways to EASE your dissonance, because, just as in music, dissonance is hard to tolerate for very l;ong. But some of the things I listed, while they might make you feel better, they are more like treating the symptoms than treating what is actually wrong, the disease.
Cognitive dissonance is natural, a natural process of the brain. Another word for cognitive dissonance is: thinking. Yes, cognitive dissonance is thinking. It is thinking how two things don't quite add up. You must solve the puzzle, or you must down a bunch of pills to make you forget there is a puzzle there at all.
If you are on this site, you are here due to cognitive dissonance. It brought you here in an effort for you to ease the dissonance in your brain, not by pacifying it, but by investigating its roots and causes so that you can bring your brain back in harmony, ike in music, with your beliefs and the experiences of your body, social life, relgious beliefs and so on.
Who is this guy? Hey dude, who do you think you are. What are you so smart? why the large print? Why the condescention? you are a jesrki. Just trying to stay ahead of all the criticisms I am likely to get for this post. But I do know what the fuck I am talking about. I have a college degree in language and liuteracy. Yes, I can provide sources ands shit. No I probably won't do it cuz I don't care.
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Another Jehovah-Witness-supportive documentary
by A.M. Number 1 inhttp://www.dailynews.com/ci_21983668.
just its existence makes me mad though, so i don't know if i could contain my rage.
it might just be too much for me to handle.
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http://www.dailynews.com/ci_21983668
Haven't seen it. I might see it though. I am not sure. Just its existence makes me mad though, so I don't know if I could contain my rage. It might just be too much for me to handle. The idea that there is a 107 year old JW out there, who in 107 years could not figure out what a scam it was just pisses me off. Igorance should not be rewarded with old age.
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I wanted to punch this elder so bad!
by OneDayillBeFree inso i decided to attend the meeting last.
since i haven't gone in about 2 weeks, and i leave as soon as it ends, and elder decided to corner me at the end.
lately i've been through some very depressing family issues that are non-jw related so i haven't been my best at acting like i care about the org.
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Bravo!
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Is it WHAT you believe that is important...or...is it HOW?
by Terry inoverheard:.
"is your cup half full or half empty?".
"well, depends on whether you just poured something out or poured something in.".
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Abandon belief for direct experience.
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Baruch: What ever became of him?
by Quarterback inthis weeks book study on jeremiah, turns on baruch, jeremiah's secretary.
it stated that he desired great things for himself.
the writer covers all bases when they state that it could be materialism, power, prestige, as place to live, etc.
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I can't tell if this is a joke or not. If not I can't imagine someone caring. If it is, kind of funny.